It’s Armistice Day

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Start all the rumors you want. I’m sure they will be more interesting than what I was actually doing.

OK, so the world hasn’t changed much since Friday. Just some notes —

Second Amendment zealots are a threat to our freedom.

On Saturday, nearly 40 armed men, women, and children waited outside a Dallas, Texas area restaurant to protest a membership meeting for the state chapter of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, a gun safety advocacy group formed in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

According to a spokeswoman for Moms Demand Action (MDA), the moms were inside the Blue Mesa Grill when members of Open Carry Texas (OCT) — an open carry advocacy group — “pull[ed] up in the parking lot and start[ed] getting guns out of their trunks.” The group then waited in the parking lot for the four MDA members to come out. The spokeswoman said that the restaurant manager did not want to call 911, for fear of “inciting a riot” and waited for the gun advocates to leave. The group moved to a nearby Hooters after approximately two hours.

MDA later released a statement calling OCT “gun bullies” who “disagree[d] with our goal of changing America’s gun laws and policies to protect our children and families.” The statement added that the members and restaurant customers were “terrified by what appeared to be an armed ambush.” A member of OCT responded by tweeting, “I guess I’m a #gunbullies #Comeandtakeit.”

In most civilized parts of the world, behavior like this would not stand. If these thugs are allowed to get away with this, the day could come when no advocacy group of any sort dare meet anywhere.

See also “Hillary’s Nightmare? A Democratic Party That Realizes Its Soul Lies With Elizabeth Warren” by Noam Scheiber. I don’t know if Elizabeth Warren would be more electable than Hillary Clinton in 2016, but I agree very much with the larger point — most Democrats, especially younger ones, have moved past the Clintons and long for a rebirth of genuine economic populism and progressivism.

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  1. uncledad  •  Nov 11, 2013 @1:08 pm

    “pull[ed] up in the parking lot and start[ed] getting guns out of their trunks.”

    Someone should organize a counter protest to these imbeciles, I’d like to see a group of Dark Skinned men wearing middle-eastern garb complete with head-gear, follow these folks around and brandish assault rifles right alongside them, I wonder how that would be covered, or not!

  2. c u n d gulag  •  Nov 11, 2013 @1:28 pm

    “If these thugs are allowed to get away with this, the day could come when no advocacy group of any sort dare meet anywhere.”

    That’s the FEATURE, not some bug!

    THEIR sort of advocacy groups will feel free to meet, but not others.
    It’s times like those, that we’ll have to hope there are some very strong disagreements – but no innocent bystanders.

  3. Stephen Stralka  •  Nov 11, 2013 @1:53 pm

    At least now we know what the gun nuts are so terrified of: unarmed mothers.

  4. Stephen Stralka  •  Nov 11, 2013 @2:09 pm

    The thing is, “Come and take it” may not be intended as a plea for martyrdom, but that’s what it is. These people do seem to hope that Barack Obama and Eric Holder will show up at their compound in person and try to take their guns away, but that’s not quite what would happen if the Feds decided to crack down on them.

    It’s kind of funny, actually, how much overlap there is between the gun nuts and the people who want to militarize the border. Here they are waving their uzis around and talking about how they’re going to defend their rights, and at the same time their demanding a massive federal buildup right in their backyard.

    At any rate, maybe there’s still some way to defuse these assholes without getting too many people killed. Such as somehow getting it through their thick skulls that they’re going to be destroyed if they start any violence. But you’re right, this can’t go on.

  5. Jeff  •  Nov 11, 2013 @2:39 pm

    Assholes, all of them.

    And that’s what you get when the entire conservative movement is run by grifter assholes.

  6. goatherd  •  Nov 11, 2013 @3:34 pm

    So much for the “an armed society is a polite society”meme.

  7. Swami  •  Nov 11, 2013 @3:47 pm

    uncledad …Yeah, and chanting Allah Akbar. Maybe getting some of their women folk to join them by ululating in agreement to augment their point.

  8. Bardi  •  Nov 11, 2013 @3:49 pm

    I say we put the word out about a gun-ban meeting in Texas. Leak the info to local gun groups.

    Let the press know and, possibly, set up an ambush.

    Be proactive, damn it.

  9. justme277  •  Nov 11, 2013 @4:04 pm

    Think progress has pics. I get fb posts from them.

  10. justme277  •  Nov 11, 2013 @4:06 pm

    What is needed is the patriot guard. A bunch of bikers to form a blockade around the gunnies till they are swallowed up

  11. Swami  •  Nov 11, 2013 @4:24 pm

    I’m a firm believer in that the pen is mightier than the sword..

  12. Swami  •  Nov 11, 2013 @4:51 pm

    The spokeswoman said that the restaurant manager did not want to call 911, for fear of “inciting a riot” and waited for the gun advocates to leave.

    This statement makes me wonder. I’m not familiar with the laws in Texas, but in Florida they have a law called “menacing” Which basically says that if you wave a gun around or even show a gun in a manner that can be construed as intimidating or threatening then you are subject to be arrested and charged with menacing. Something is not right in Texas.
    Why would anybody feel they had to rely on the restaurant manager to call 911? I think if I was feeling trapped by a bunch of yahoos toting automatic weapons, I’d call 911 myself.

  13. Swami  •  Nov 11, 2013 @5:00 pm

    Happy Veterans Day to all you Vets.

  14. Tom_B  •  Nov 11, 2013 @7:42 pm

    ““pull[ed] up in the parking lot and start[ed] getting guns out of their trunks.””

    Swami is exactly right. Anyone can call 911– and should! That said, police training standards need to be vastly improved; to be brought to a “common core”, like we are trying to do in education.

    In Michigan, Saturday, some moron blew away a black 19 year old chick who was looking to use a phone because she cracked up her car. The cops questioned the idiot– and let him GO. Shades of the Zimmerman travesty. Some cops can’t recognize manslaughter if the trip over it– sheer ineptitude.

  15. Bonnie  •  Nov 11, 2013 @7:51 pm

    A bunch of stupid men with guns afraid of four (4)(!) women. Then, their fear turned to lust and they went to Hooters. Wonderful. Sounds like nothing but perverts in that group of nuts.

  16. Doug  •  Nov 11, 2013 @9:46 pm

    There is a dangerous mentality exhibited here. It goes further then the 2nd amendment. In a sentence the mindset is, “We’re right and they’re wrong – therefore we are entitled to use force to prevent the will of the majority from prevailing.

    Sane regulation of guns is overwhelmingly supported. We don’t all agree on what sane legislation looks like, but the kooks who think anything is allowed by the Constitution for any device with a trigger are in the vast minority. That minority thinks they can overcome the majority. As long as the NRA can affect elections as they can…. the minority will beat the majority.

    IF we reform campaign finance by Constitutional amendment and follow with legislation the USSC can’t overturn, then sane gun legislation will follow in the wake of that event. The greater issue isn’t 2nd amendment rights – the issue is the survival of representative democracy.

  17. Mike G  •  Nov 12, 2013 @2:23 am

    if you wave a gun around or even show a gun in a manner that can be construed as intimidating or threatening then you are subject to be arrested and charged with menacing. Something is not right in Texas.

    It’s Texas. The cops would probably arrest the women for “menacing” the rights of pants-wetting assholes to wave their guns around.

  18. Bill Bush  •  Nov 12, 2013 @8:25 am

    For those tired of clinging to their guns, isn’t there something else they could cling to? Why, yes, of course there is:
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/sarah-palin-donald-trump-attend-billy-graham-95th-birthday-party-article-1.1510688

  19. Monty  •  Nov 12, 2013 @11:21 am

    Start all the rumors you want. I’m sure they will be more interesting than what I was actually doing.

    Stalking Bigfoot.

    Applying for the manned Mars mission.

    “I woke up in Vegas and ________”

    Breaking Bad binge.

  20. maha  •  Nov 12, 2013 @3:42 pm

    Meditation retreat. I did wake up in Vegas a couple of times, years ago, but nothing had happened.

  21. c u n d gulag  •  Nov 12, 2013 @4:16 pm

    And if it did, you’d never tell – right?

    Question, how do you know when it’s time to leave a meditation retreat?
    Are there calendars and clocks?
    Should there be?
    I’m actually half-serious here.

  22. maha  •  Nov 12, 2013 @7:27 pm

    Usually meditation retreats have a set beginning and end time. And yeah, there are clocks, but in the old days people would just go by bells and drums and such.

  23. Swami  •  Nov 13, 2013 @6:41 pm

    I go on self medication retreats occasionally. I’m waiting for the VA to approve medical marijuana for the treatment of PTSD.. Then I’ll be retreating to Shangri-La on a permanent basis.

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