Pandagon Under Attack

Pandagon is under attack and has been pulled off line. Amanda has set up a redirect site and has posted about the hate mail she has received from “Christians.”

Kevin Hayden suggests we all publish Amanda’s post so that the haters can’t follow her everywhere. The problem with this is that the hate mail contains words I do not publish here on Mahablog. From anybody. Well, here’s most of it:

Whenever the site is up, we get slammed and it goes down. I have to suspend the site until the fervor dies down. At this point, I think it might be a few hours before the Lookie Lous give up refreshing the site. In the meantime, here’s the latest post I wrote about all the “Christians” who have written me in the past week:

Update: To correct misinformation in the comments, I was not “fired”. I offered my resignation and it was accepted.

Because I had the nerve to be critical of the Catholic church’s stance on birth control and abortion—nevermind their political opposition to distributing condoms to fight HIV, a stance that has helped usher thousands and possibly millions to their untimely deaths—I’ve gotten a number of letters from people who call themselves “Christians”, as Bill Donohue also calls himself. Christians are people who are supposed to follow the behavior and teachings of Jesus Christ. I mention this, because it seems to me that therefore, when Christians are contemplating an action that is morally questionable, it appears they should consult the Bible before acting.

Luckily, I happen to have a Bible laying around this house, because even though I’m not a Christian, I was an English major, and it is important to Know Your Ancient Mythologies if you are reading poetry. And I flipped to this passage that seems to have solid advice on what to do if you’ve got some asshole dragging a woman in front of an angry crowd and yelling, “SINNER!”:

    The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst they said to him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?” This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.” And once more he bent down and wrote on the ground. But when they heard it, they went away one by one, beginning with the older ones, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. Jesus stood up and said to her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.”

Granted, I don’t think criticizing the church for policies that hurt families and even get people killed is a “sin”, but my letter writers do. But I thought I’d bring up this story for two reasons. One, I’ve always been impressed by the subtext of the story. I suspect, strongly, that this story is part of the reason that Christianity was so attractive to women in its early days, because this sort of random misogynist scapegoating is all too real in a patriarchy, and this story must have touched a lot of women at the time, who would be impressed with Jesus’ unwillingness to play into such misogyny. In fact, from everything I understand, much of the history of Christian misogyny is one 2,000 year long backlash against early female power in the church.

I’m also impressed by how so many people who claim to follow Jesus have basic reading comprehension problems when they regard this story. (Not all—for instance, some fellow Pandagonians take their faith seriously enough to read the Bible and try to follow its precepts.) From my mailbag:

    I pray that I had some small part to play in your “resigning” from the Edwards campaign you libelous fraud!

That’s from a Vivian Thomas, who also wants me to know that I’m a worthless hag.

    Catholics are concerned about killing unborn children, you stupid bitch. Chop away if it suits you, but we don’t
    have to accept that as moral. That’s why it’s called a religion. Look into it.

Frankly, if I were a churchy person, this “Look into it” thing would insult me, since R.R. from Tallahassee, FL is all but saying that religion is his excuse to declare his misogyny “moral” so he doesn’t actually have to think and decide what his morality is for himself.


    after reading your vile screed against Catholics and the Holy Spirit, I just had to see what you looked like. (I envisioned you eyebrow-less, with no visible pupils, and a blank, dead stare.) I see I was correct about the blank, dead stare, but other than that you’re not too bad. I then thought maybe you were mad at God (and by proxy Catholics) for making you ugly, but now I’m figuring you’re just mad at him for making you a woman.

Annette D’Amato is somewhat right, that I’m angry—but not that I’m a woman, but that people like her have such uncalled for contempt for women. But I am impressed that I gave her a small bit of education. Contrary to what people have been telling her, feminists are not demons without eyebrows (she missed the boar’s teeth and snakes on our heads), but human beings.

Andy Driggers from Dallas, TX was also so moved by my criticisms of religious anti-choicers, that he wrote:

    Problem with women like you, you just need a good fucking from a real man! Living in Texas myself, I know you haven’t found that real Texan yet. But once your liberal pro feminist ass gets a real good fucking, you might see the light. Until then, enjoy your battery operated toys b/c most real men wouldn’t want to give you the fucking you deserve b/c the shit that would come out of you ears.

Reminder: Donohue was claiming to be so hurt by my “bigotry”. Yet, for some reason, his supporters write me and they are more interested in telling me that my womanhood is repulsive to them. Interesting—almost as if his claims to speak for Catholicism were in fact dog whistles to scare people about women’s equality.

As I told some close friends in the days that Donohue was on the news, spraying code words about “get the feminists” (which explains why he roped Shakespeare’s Sister into this, even though she really had nothing to do with any of this—except she’s pro-equality, which is what is really what offends Donohue and all the people who gave that anti-Semite airtime), a good half of my hate mail could be summed up, “You have a pottymouth, you stupid [bleep].” An example, from Paul Bernard of Scottsdale, AZ:

    i like the way you trash talk i don’t particularly want to have sex with you but i would like a blow job.

Right wingers right now are pretending like sexism has nothing to do with me, which is an argument that works if you think a) men get emails about how they need to suck a dick on a regular basis and b) that there’s nothing whatsoever sexist about allowing men to curse but hitting the fainting couch if a woman does.

Bud Phelps, another person who opposes “bigotry”, as defined by right wing shill Bill Donohue.

    It’s just too bad your mother didn’t abort you. You are nothing more than a filthy mouth slut. I bet a couple of years in Iraq being raped and beaten daily would help you appreciate America a little. Need a plane ticket ?

Time to wake up and smell reality—real bigots follow the siren call of the fascist right wing. Why would they even bother with liberals and all our equality and human rights and other tedious ideas?

Romanco De Leone was also moved by Donohue’s poignant claims about insulating the Catholic church from legitimate criticisms.

    [bleep bleepity-bleep]

But I shan’t belabor the point. I haven’t even begun to scratch the surface of the hate mail the Bill Donohue’s “Christian” campaign against me has inspired. This is all stuff from days ago—I’ve gotten more than 100 since. Hell, from the looks of my email from last night, I’ve had more than 100 in the past 12 hours from self-proclaimed Christians who want me to know that I have hurt their feelings and this has nothing, nothing whatsoever to do with their own misogyny and tendency to witch hunt.

Gordon Meacham forwarded something else posted at Pandagon before the attacks — “a tongue and cheek template for a IRS form, providing reference to the specific section of the tax code that Mr Donahue has probably violated with his recent actions.” See it here.

15 thoughts on “Pandagon Under Attack

  1. Boy, that Andy Driggers sounds like he’s got a good handle on understanding female sexuality. I pity the poor girl who makes the mistake of dating him.He must of been reared in a cage.
    To bad he didn’t leave an e-mail address, I’d forward him a copy of Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus.

  2. I was on Pandagon this morning when it became unreloadable. There were two posts more recent than the announcement. One contained examples of the hate email, the other contained a tongue and cheek template for a IRS form, providing reference to the specific section of the tax code that Mr Donahue has probably violated with his recent actions.

    I was only able to grab a low res screen shot, which is here:

  3. The pertinent text in section 5a is the following:

    William Donahue, in his role as President of the Catholic League, A 501(c)(3) tax exempt organization, made appearances on national television calling for the firing by the John Edwards for President campaign of two campaign employees.

  4. William Donahue, in his role as President of the Catholic League, A 501(c)(3) tax exempt organization, made appearances on national television calling for the firing by the John Edwards for President campaign of two campaign employees. The Catholic League also issued a press release and again on Feb 12, 2007 specifically pressuring the Edwards campaign to fire the employees. I believe that the relevant part of the : tax code is found at FS-2006-17. “Under federal tax law, section 501(c)(3) organizations that take positions on public policy issues including issues that divide candidates in an election for public office. However section 501(c)(3) organizations must avoid any issue advocacy that functions as political campaign intervention”.

  5. Sorry I had to break that up over 4, 5 & 6, but the links to the Catholic League were preventing me from posting.

    The links to the above Press Releases are here

    and here

    The point here is that Amanda is right, this is the clear violation of the law. A very clear case actually. Other references were added about how extensively the MSM covered the story, thereby crossing the line. Given how miraculous the Dusty Fogboy indictment is, I wouldn’t expect a Donahue perp walk anytime in the near future. The name of the Pandagon post was “Don Qui Who?” and I hope we can read again soon.

  6. I just knew when I started reading this post that it would be about some uglies hiding their evil under the label ‘Christians’, folks who surely make Jesus weep, not the least because they are using His name to behave the opposite of what He taught.

  7. What Andy Driggers would like us to know is that he has a magic penis and if some lucky one should have the chance for insertion of this magic wand into their body (rape or not) then that lucky one will experience a transformation from intelligent, assertive and courageous to compliant, assaulted and subordinated. And what part of living the love of Jesus would that be?

    Gee Andy, is that what the Priest taught you after everyone else had gone home? Oh, by the way Andy, I don’t think you represent the average Christian and certainly not the average Catholic. It would be a mistake to allow your outrage and sadism to infect me with a prevasive prejudice against all Christians. You tricky fanatic, that’s really what you want isn’t it, to inflame others to act out down to your level so that all of us have an opportunity to roil in that little pit of hatred that you have managed to fall into?

    So I say to you and all your ilk: I regret that you all have had to go through whatever it was that filled you so full of venom and rage. Maybe you could go back to the ethical teachings of Jesus for some healing and this time let it soak in a bit deeper.

  8. It is an increasingly common tactic, used by the fundies, to conflate non-belief and a rejection of religious dogma with bigotry. If you say the pope is just an old guy who should not tell women of reproductive age what to do, you are a bigot.
    This tactic seems to work. I despair.

  9. Religion is something composed entirely of satans doing. Religion is evil, something so ugly it defies comprehension in it’s whole. The hate spit from the fingers of those respondants to Pandagons blog shows the true nature of the religion these people espouse. It is hate working here, not love. These people hate themselves and hate anyone who rocks the comfortable little boat they float in. Lord forbid they have to examine their own life and find their own answers.
    As to the legality of donofools actions on television, don’t hold your breath for anyone with power in this country to do anything about it. What a mess we have become. All in the name of Jayzus.

  10. why can’t the blogs get together and publicize how these so called Christians are behaving and what the death threats are saying.
    Why can’t you guys go and demand, flood the msm with what is going on and expose the so called christians for what they really are like. Hate and bile coming from their so called godly selves.
    This should be made known to the general public…

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