Please Proceed, Wingnuts

Sarah Proud and Tall collects reactions to the Great Fold from RedState. One is especially hilarious:

The Palin, to whom Cruz gives credit for his Primary win, is now in Iowa, I believe. A Palin Cruz ticket would float all Conservative Candidates, who had fought their way thru the Primary. The work ethic of the Palin will draw votes from all quarters.

To which SP&T comments, “Please proceed, wingnuts.”

So are they going to pull this stunt again in January? Hell yes. They haven’t learned a thing. Dylan Scott writes,

For a certain block of House conservatives, the ones who drove Speaker John Boehner toward a government shutdown and near-default against his will, the lesson of the last few weeks isn’t that they overreached. Not that they made unachievable demands, put their leadership in an impossible position, damaged their party’s position with the public and left a deep uncertainty about whether the GOP conference can recover and legislate.

No, what they’re taking away from the 2013 crisis is: They didn’t go far enough. …

… “I think we’re going to see a drumbeat out there that our spineless leaders caved,” Norm Ornstein, resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, told TPM. “If we had held on, we would’ve defaulted, but it wouldn’t have made any difference. Obama would have caved, and we would have gotten what we wanted.”

Dave Weigel is the go-to-guy if you want to know what the baggers are thinking. And some of them think they won, sort of.

House Speaker John Boehner would admit defeat. But some Republicans were declaring a victory of sorts—maybe not now, but down the road—for what the media had already judged to be a historic debacle. They had revealed President Obama to be a cynical political operator. They had proved to voters that they did everything they could to stop Obamacare. When the next spending fight comes around, they insisted that enduring this shutdown would strengthen their position..

…Does this mean that Republicans would enter into another shutdown standoff with no fear? That’s not how they look at it. They view any attempt to blame them for the shutdown, and not the president, as media bias in concentrate. This shutdown proved them right, and they’ll carry that knowledge into the budget battle.

“I think this exposed the president and made clear to the public that he’s unwilling to compromise,” said Michigan Rep. Justin Amash. “There’s going to be a lot of focus over the next few months about the failures of Obamacare. It’ll help Republicans because we stood up and fought—and there’s nobody who can blame Republicans, at this point, for Obamacare. We did what we could.”

So, yeah, the die hards are preparing to do it all again.

20 thoughts on “Please Proceed, Wingnuts

  1. “The work ethic of the Palin will draw votes from all quarters.” The work ethic? Huh? Are we talking the Grifter here? The one who quit Alaska and was even canned by Faux News.

  2. “Bartender, bring be a double (-down) of Dewars and delusion, pronto!”

    “The work ethic of the (sic?) Palin will draw votes from all quarters.”
    Ok, if THAT doesn’t summarize the level of self-delusion and bat-shit insanity in these people, then I’m afraid to find out what will.

    Yes, nuts-with-wings, because nothing says “work ethic” more, than going from one college to another one, 4 in total, with who know how many “majors” and “minors,” in around 5 years!
    And nothing quite defines having a great “work ethic,” quite like quitting half-way through your first term as Governor.

    Your great site, like many others, may not have an “Edit” button – but most of us Libtards have an internal “Edit” button – so, either before or after we hit “Submit Comment,” we know it when we have some logical inconsistencies.

    Not these poor folks.
    That’s how Obama’s a vengeful and brutal SocialistFascistCommunist Dictator one day, and an indecisive mewling teleprompter-reading wussy the next day – hell, more like several times a day, if needed!

    Saying that “The Whore of Babblin’on” has a work ethic, is like saying Boehner’s as sober as a Sharia judge!

  3. That Palin/Cruz comment really re-sets the bar for delusional! Seriously, it takes the breath away.

    Here’s hoping they “please proceed” to electoral disaster in 2014.

  4. That quote from Rep. Justin Amash was funny. I view him as a little pilot fish, swimming around pecking the parasites from the skin of the shark Ted Cruz. It’s so amusing how they “proved” Obama wouldn’t compromise. It never occurs to them that a lot of people in the country thought Obama was right, and shouldn’t give in to the hostage-takers.

    And they also think it was good that they proved to the entire world that they were willing to stand up and do something completely stupid, that people had warned them in advance wouldn’t work and would only make things worse, and so ‘now’ people know that they are willing to do something stupid that won’t work, for when they threaten to do it again. Which they already are.

    It never occurs to them that they only got so far this time because a lot of people really couldn’t believe they would be so stupid and self-destructive until they did it. Now we know better, and are more likely to not even let them get close to doing it again.

    They really are both delusional and dumb-as-stumps.

  5. They can try, but we now have 87 Republicans in the House and 26 in the Senate who who are now free to ignore the Tea Party. Once you know you’re going to be primaried anyway, why bother trying to please these people?

  6. Loved the Rachel Maddow graphic.

    Reading around this morning, it seems unlikely the wingnuts will get as far with a shutdown, much less a threat of debt ceiling default, next time. They’ve been too burned. Robert Reich does a good job of laying out what’s likely to happen next, where the focus is going to be.

    And God love her, Elizabeth Warren is angry over what the shutdown stunt cost us.

    I’m with her, it’s not enough that we’re celebrating how the country was barely spared Idiocy, there should be outrage over what Idiocy did.

    I did a double-take on “Palin Cruz”. This pinhead really thinks SP should be at TOP of a ticket? Wow, the wingnuts still love her. I could see Cruz, with his massive ego, and Texas-sized delusions fueled by a substantial intellect at the top, but would he be so stupid as to enlist The Quitter as VP? The wingnuts drool over a male leader, and he qualifies in that regard.

    Was really impressed at how women saved the day.

  7. In the Cephalopod Book of Etiquette, it is considered bad form, bad manners, and Bad Karma to rejoice in excess after a contest is over. Bad winners do not make good losers. So I shall not gloat.

    I shall not gloat.

    I.shall.not.gloat, period (!)


  8. Swami,
    What… uh… what make you “the new and improved – Swami?”

    From here, it looks like an Earl Scheib paint job on the same ol’ jalopy! 😉

  9. Gulag.. Oh no, it’s no Earl Scheib paint job. It’s the real deal. I’ve finally seen the light and embraced the wisdom of the Jonah Goldberg et al school of journalism. I’ve cast off the shackles of reality to experience a new birth in literary freedom.
    I was reading an article by Charles Krauthammer when I came to the realization that truth, logic, and reason were not the weapons, or even the proper foundation in which to engage the wingnuts. In short.. my reality has become much more personal to me and it only has to conform with my own reality..
    Ex: Read Erick Erickson’s exhortation to the baggers of the recent government shutdown and debt ceiling crisis and then compare that to reality. It becomes apparent that a static reality in dealing with baggers is a major hindrance.

    Consider Hinderocket… Hinderocket says: default impossible!.. and Confucius says: Rape impossible!

  10. In 1861, Kansas entered the union as a free (not slave) state. This was a trigger for the Civil War. The handwriting was on the wall – the days of slavery were numbered the only way to preserve it was a revolution. We just had our ‘Kansas’ moment. An attempt to overturn the legislative process and ‘nullify’ AHC by extortion failed. The Senate is probably not at risk for democrats in 2014 because of this GOP stunt. The House may be at risk for the GOP – because of this stunt.

    I disregard the noise from the lemmings (amusing as it is). The leadership of the Tea Party knows – though pockets of loyalists will continue to elect kooks – the mainstream rejected their strongarm tactics. They can’t moderate their message and the prospect of expanding their numbers in Congress, well, it ain’t a good bet. What does that leave?

    Second Amendment Solutions. Period. This time the Civil War is ideological without a regional basis. There isn’t a state in the Union that would (on a popular basis) vote for secession when they found out Medicare & Social Security would be history. The new Civil War will look like a war we know – Iraq. The rebels will use kidnapping, assassination, car bombs- all the tools of an insurgency to try to make the government more repressive and more invasive and hopefully grow a base of popular support for a rebellion.

    Think I’m smoking the cheap stuff again? Read up on the Hutaree, a ‘Christian’ ultra-conservative militia. Their plan was to kill a couple of cops and then bomb the funeral procession to set off a war… They got busted before they did it. There’s a group – from Atlanta – they were planning to use antrax (I think) on the general population. Yeah, but it didn’t happen and won’t really. Oklahoma City bombing ring a bell? 168 dead, over 600 injured.

    The Occupy Movement followed a ‘normal’ boom and bust cycle. The Tea Party won’t – they came on the scene promoting a philosophy with a limited appeal. No matter how you wrap it in the flag, it’s opposed to women’s rights (including contraception) and opposed to gay rights, opposed to voting rights (for liberal-leaning groups) is opposed to environmental regulation, opposed to public education. It’s opposed to Medicare and Social Security.

    The wrapping is coming off – moderates who got a good look this month are rejecting the Tea Party. Mainstream GOP politicians like McCain are coming out in direct opposition. Hold your hurray. This isn’t a game where the looser will walk off the field when the buzzer sounds at the end of the 4th quarter.

    I’m delighted with the outcome of the shutdown. However, it moves the dynamic from the political arena, where Tea Party influence is decaying to the revolution that many in the Tea Party are eager for. Hang onto your hat – it’s gonna be a bumpy ride.

  11. Apt description of the wingnuts:

    Dogs (Waters, Gilmour)
    Pink Floyd
    Animals (17:06)

    You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real need.
    You gotta sleep on your toes, and when you’re on the street,
    You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed.
    And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight,
    You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking.

    And after a while, you can work on points for style.
    Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,
    A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.
    You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,
    So that when they turn their backs on you,
    You’ll get the chance to put the knife in.

    You gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder.
    You know it’s going to get harder, and harder, and harder as you
    get older.
    And in the end you’ll pack up and fly down south,
    Hide your head in the sand,
    Just another sad old man,
    All alone and dying of cancer.

    And when you lose control, you’ll reap the harvest you have sown.
    And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone.
    And it’s too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw
    So have a good drown, as you go down, all alone,
    Dragged down by the stone.

    I gotta admit that I’m a little bit confused.
    Sometimes it seems to me as if I’m just being used.
    Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise.
    If I don’t stand my own ground, how can I find my way out of this

    Deaf, dumb, and blind, you just keep on pretending
    That everyone’s expendable and no-one has a real friend.
    And it seems to you the thing to do would be to isolate the winner
    And everything’s done under the sun,
    And you believe at heart, everyone’s a killer.

    Who was born in a house full of pain.
    Who was trained not to spit in the fan.
    Who was told what to do by the man.
    Who was broken by trained personnel.
    Who was fitted with collar and chain.
    Who was given a pat on the back.
    Who was breaking away from the pack.
    Who was only a stranger at home.
    Who was ground down in the end.
    Who was found dead on the phone.
    Who was dragged down by the stone.

  12. Sometimes I think that what will “get us” in the end is that lies, however ridiculous, can be tailored to produce a desired effect. Especially so, if the “spin”, misrepresentation, AKA, lies, also happens to transform the one who believes it, into a larger than life character involved in an epic battle. It may be an unfair assessment on my part, but the fundamentalists I encounter seem to inhabit a dark, but Disneyesque world. It must be very entertaining and engaging for them and it’s all in good fun, (not really) until they start amassing guns and ammo. Then the game gets dark for all of us.

    I have a friend who “went to the dark side” a few years ago. I have know him since I was in college. Not only does he repeat right wing talking points, but he tends to “improve” them. For example, he recently posted that Michelle Bachmann had “adopted 36 children”, not had 23 foster kids, some on short term, for which she was paid $30 a day, and that Trayvon Martin was “6 feet 8 inches tall”. He was convinced that he “knew all the particulars of the case” and that anyone who argued with him was uninformed. The list goes on.

    If there is a point to this, it’s that, regardless of how cunning the right wing puppet masters are, their shock troops are more effective and dependable if they are a little more than half way around the bend. People like my old friend have entered a kind of epistemic black hole. The “old reality” doesn’t apply anymore. A “good soldier” doesn’t have to know the truth, but he has to believe that he does, and convincing someone that they know the truth, when others are benighted fools, is the oldest con game in the world.

  13. I caught an interesting piece on NPR yesterday. A professor from UNC had done some work on political action groups, like many in the middle East and like our own “Occupy”. She had determined that such groups soon fizzled and died without having a real influence on policy or political direction in large part BECAUSE they were organized through social media. Essentially, they were comparatively like “flashmobs”. They never developed the infrastructure or the discipline to carry through to the next level. They didn’t have a mechanism to formulate policy or hash out disagreement. So, a rapid rise and fall were really all that they were prepared to accomplish.

    Sorry that I can’t link to the article. I heard it in the midst of my work on the farm. Doug’s post with the section on “Occupy” and the Tea Party brought it to mind. The Tea Party has more staying power because they organized the old fashioned way and of course, have patrons with deep pockets.

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