And we’ve had a request for the dancing banana …
I had a lot of fun this morning cruising around the Web and reading the reviews. Even right-wing sites admitted it was not a good night for Trump, although most blamed the moderators for being biased. (At least one also blamed Laura Loomer.) I’m sure most folks who didn’t watch are hearing that Trump bombed.
And then there’s this. I didn’t know Drudge was still online, but I guess he is.
CNN fact-checker Daniel Dale appeared on TV screens soon after the Trump-Harris debate ended Tuesday night to give his preliminary verdict—and declared that Donald Trump had lied at least 33 times during the 90-minute face-off.
“This was a staggeringly dishonest debate performance from former President Trump,” Dale told host Jake Tapper. “Just lie after lie on subject after subject. By my preliminary count, Jake, Trump made at least 33 false claims. Thirty-three!
“By contrast, by—again—a preliminary count, Vice President Harris made at least one false claim, though she added at least a few misleading claims and a few more that lacked key context.”
Dale, who has been fact-checking Trump for years, explained that the former president’s firehose of untruths was totally unprecedented in American political history.
“I think a lot of Americans say, ‘Well, all politicians lie,’” he said. “No major presidential candidate before Donald Trump has ever lied with this kind of frequency. A remarkably large chunk of what he said tonight was just not true.”
There’s a big difference between putting a spin on data by leaving out some context, which all politicians do, and quite another to say things happened that didn’t happen, like aliens eating people’s pets in Springfield, Ohio. The claim about some states allowing an infanticide option for mothers who don’t want their babies was never true, either, even though Fetus People have been claiming that for years. (I understand it originated from the common medical practice of giving only palliative care to newborns with such severe birth defects they have absolutely no hope of survival for more than a few hours, a concept the Fetus People can’t seem to grasp.)
Trump’s other mistake is that he’s been telling his followers for weeks now that Kamala Harris isn’t very bright and wasn’t giving interviews because she can’t speak well in public. It must have been disorienting to watch this allegedly dimwitted woman mopping the floor with God Emperor Trump. But Kamala Harris probably is used to being underestimated.
Along those lines, see Jonathan Last at The Bulwark, What More Do You People Want from Kamala Harris?
Harris delivered the goods. You never know if a politician can play on the national stage until they do it. Sometimes a promising candidate pops. Sometimes they’re Ron DeSantis.
At every turn over the last seven weeks, Harris popped. From her first speech at the campaign HQ in Delaware, to the first big rally, to her convention speech, to the debate—she answered the bell every time.
She is not coasting. She is not simply existing as a non-octogenarian alternative to Trump. She is waging a smart, vigorous campaign and executing at a high level.
Even this morning I’m still seeing interviews with undecided voters who complain they don’t know where Harris stands on issues. This is something that’s been driving me bats for decades now. Ultimately it doesn’t matter how much information about candidates’ stands on issues is readily available (see Harris’s issues page on her campaign website, for example). There will be some who will persistently refuse to understand how a candidate they don’t want to vote for stands on issues. Just ignore these people, I say.
Jonathan Last also said this:
Some conservatives seem to think that news networks exist to serve the interests of their preferred candidates. That is a misunderstanding.
A journalistic institution exists to serve its audience by giving them the clearest possible understanding of reality.1 The first duty of a journalistic institution is not to be “fair” to the politicians it covers. It is to make certain that its audience is presented an accurate view of reality.
The footnote says, “An institution which places consideration for politicians above the interests of its audience practices something other than journalism.”
Even so, Trump was allowed to talk a lot more than Harris.
KAMALA HARRIS
Spoke for: 37.1 minutes
Amount of times she spoke: 23
DONALD TRUMP
Spoke for: 41.9 minutes
Amount of times he spoke: 39— Stephanie Ruhle (@SRuhle) September 11, 2024
So who’s unfair? Anyway, there are so many good analyses of How Trump Screwed the Pooch Last Night to even begin to link to them all. Do see Steve M and David Kurtz for starts, though.